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estate planning probate personal representatives elder law powers attorney living wills open technical issues linkback thread tools rate thread display modes pmsanchez junior member date jul posts need protect little girl name state law oklahoma story met wife years ago daughter just year old knew dad biological father seen day life tried wife split prior knowing carrying years married suddenly gets email guy saying married congratulations whatnot apparently googling name day served papers guy sudden wants custody start paying child support change name assure best interest little girl perfectly happy stable wife good woman keep father seeing child guy dangerous opinion couple years ago wife googled username entry adult sex dummy account kind ammo quite disturbed apparently joined interest groups virginia gang rape fantasies written stories raping women criminal history assault including police officer dui driving suspended license large individual easily knock bull view man legitimate threat daughters life need just away opinions know lawyer need cruel viscous lawyer tulsa matter cost think judge possibly award man rights daughter years showed interest sponsored stealth senior member date may posts quote originally posted pmsanchez name state law oklahoma story met wife years ago daughter just year old knew dad biological father seen day life tried wife split prior knowing carrying years married suddenly gets email guy saying married congratulations whatnot apparently googling name day served papers guy sudden wants custody start paying child support change name assure best interest little girl perfectly happy stable wife good woman keep father seeing child guy dangerous opinion couple years ago wife googled username entry adult sex dummy account kind ammo quite disturbed apparently joined interest groups virginia gang rape fantasies written stories raping women criminal history assault including police officer dui driving suspended license large individual easily knock bull view man legitimate threat daughters life need just away opinions know lawyer need cruel viscous lawyer tulsa matter cost think judge possibly award man rights daughter years showed interest hate tell daughter matter feel wife served appointment attorney discuss child ex options note options need take giant step back children coloring books fill favorite colors kite runner khaled hosseini repugnant favorite word family law attorney ohiogal senior member date dec location ohio posts quote name state law oklahoma story met wife years ago daughter just year old knew dad biological father seen day life tried wife split prior knowing carrying years married suddenly gets email guy saying married congratulations whatnot apparently googling name day served papers guy sudden wants custody start paying child support change name he right establish paternity sue custody visitation child support quote assure best interest little girl perfectly happy stable adopted little girl quote wife good woman keep father seeing child guy dangerous opinion opinion matter wife tell court court decision quote couple years ago wife googled username entry adult sex dummy account kind ammo quite disturbed apparently joined interest groups virginia gang rape fantasies written stories raping women criminal history assault including police officer dui driving suspended license large individual easily knock bull perusing just guilty says criminal history slept wife criminal history child conceived quote view man legitimate threat daughters life need just away opinions daughter daughter hopefully lied biological father hopefully told child appropriate ways father quote know lawyer need cruel viscous lawyer tulsa matter cost think judge possibly award man rights daughter years showed interest judge give rights daughter wanted adopted long right establish paternity apparently child legal father correct parents remember things love kids hate ex soon ex children relationship parent death children determine type nursing stated taken giving legal advice forming attorney client relationship licensed practice law ohio guardian litem children cft highest rank approved verified moderators family law attorney pmsanchez junior member date jul posts quote originally posted ohiogal right establish paternity sue custody visitation child support adopted little girl opinion matter wife tell court court decision perusing just guilty says criminal history slept wife criminal history child conceived daughter daughter hopefully lied biological father hopefully told child appropriate ways father judge give rights daughter wanted adopted long right establish paternity apparently child legal father correct regardless say little girl just partake conception means support love given nullified planning adopting listed father birth certificate pursue opinion matter married joined opinions course court trying right lawyer pursuing sexual desires heard till clicked link google searching known user name myspace whatnot criminal history pre post birth child planning letting know biological father old comprehend thing really think appropriate age want hear oh take step back blah blah blah father way insemination want know helpful input lawyer suggestions area thank family law attorney courtclerk senior member date apr location sitting computer probably rolling eyes post posts quote originally posted pmsanchez just partake conception means support love given nullified simply means father sees quote originally posted sandyclaus courtclerk right quote originally posted cyjeff claim rights kid family law attorney courtclerk senior member date apr location sitting computer probably rolling eyes post posts quote originally posted pmsanchez planning letting know biological father old comprehend thing really think appropriate age really think mailman father ice cream man male comes appropriate age know tom dick harry father appropriate age know father ways old know difference sees quote originally posted sandyclaus courtclerk right quote originally posted cyjeff claim rights kid family law attorney cyjeff senior member date sep posts quote originally posted pmsanchez regardless say little girl just partake conception means support love given nullified planning adopting listed father birth certificate pursue bull say step father claim rights kid wanted adopt gotten married sooner adopted you quote opinion matter married joined opinions opinion child raised worth exactly mine legal strangers child quote course court trying right lawyer good luck quote pursuing sexual desires heard till clicked link google searching known user name myspace whatnot criminal history pre post birth child wife thought good genetic material slept conceive gets part life really want quote planning letting know biological father old comprehend thing really think appropriate age yeah decision court tell nice quote want hear oh take step back blah blah blah father way insemination want know helpful input lawyer suggestions area thank giving helpful advice legal stranger starts spouting court given child lied told father dressed court judge encourage court father time child transition appropriate introductory phase paranoia letting lover life starting show edges situation fact prepared fact may allowed court girl stops calling daddy immediately father youth need fountain smart family law attorney cyjeff senior member date sep posts way time tell child biological child moment understands term daddy longer wait tell damage trauma psychological protecting squat playing house kid court see just way youth need fountain smart family law attorney courtclerk senior member date apr location sitting computer probably rolling eyes post posts quote originally posted cyjeff claim rights kid absolutely completely quotable addition siggy mind sees quote originally posted sandyclaus courtclerk right quote originally posted cyjeff claim rights kid family law attorney ohiogal senior member date dec location ohio posts quote regardless say little girl just partake conception means support love given nullified means legal stranger quote planning adopting listed father birth certificate pursue bull completely false father birth certificate adoption pursued reasons may able pursued reason showing ignorance quote opinion matter married joined opinions course court trying right lawyer us party lawsuit filed putative father legal stranger quote pursuing sexual desires heard till clicked link google searching known user name myspace whatnot really know purpose perusing know fact perused admit saintly wife said quote criminal history pre post birth child saintly wife believe criminal proper bedding material father criminal history pre birth child apparently mom notice quote planning letting know biological father old comprehend thing really think appropriate age oh wrong lying child said rights child quote want hear oh take step back blah blah blah father way insemination you legal father quote want know helpful input lawyer suggestions area thank you standing case parents remember things love kids hate ex soon ex children relationship parent death children determine type nursing stated taken giving legal advice forming attorney client relationship licensed practice law ohio guardian litem children cft highest rank approved verified moderators family law attorney futuredust senior member date sep location posts fault father life knew odds came marriage kid math figuring child trying right thing child post she pregnant split chances told started looking couple years ago based username internet pretty large people username speak things read peruse online content provider write kinky horror fantasy stories geared adult genre living pervert mean excited want participate said stories great actors actresses portray demented killers rapists stephen king dean koontz list on wealthy writers fantastic imaginations keep millions people entertained saw movie series 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this guy now all of a sudden wants to get custody and start paying child support change her last name and everything else he can do I assure you this is not in the best interest of my little girl as she is perfectly happy and stable as she is Now my wife is a good woman and would never keep a father from seeing her child but this guy is dangerous to her in our opinion A couple of years ago my wife googled his username and found an entry on an adult sex site So she made a dummy account to get any kind of ammo she could on him and was quite disturbed at what all she found Apparently he has joined interest groups on this site like Virginia Gang Rape Fantasies and what not He has even written stories on that site about raping women He has a criminal history of assault including on a police officer DUI driving with a suspended license amongst others He is a rather LARGE individual who could easily knock out a bull We view this man as a very legitimate threat to our daughters life and need him to just go away Any opinions on what we can do I know we HAVE to get a lawyer but we need the most cruel and viscous lawyer in Tulsa no matter what the cost Do you think a judge could possibly award this man rights to our daughter even though in years he never once showed interest in her Sponsored ad PM stealth Senior Member Join Date May Posts Quote Originally Posted by PMSanchez What is the name of your state only U S law Oklahoma Here's the story I met my wife almost years ago when her daughter was just year old I am all she ever knew as a dad Her biological father has never seen her a day of her life and has never tried to He and my wife split prior to her knowing she was carrying Now years later we are recently married and suddenly she gets an email from that guy saying he found out she is married and congratulations and whatnot Apparently he is still googling her name The other day we get served papers that this guy now all of a sudden wants to get custody and start paying child support change her last name and everything else he can do I assure you this is not in the best interest of my little girl as she is perfectly happy and stable as she is Now my wife is a good woman and would never keep a father from seeing her child but this guy is dangerous to her in our opinion A couple of years ago my wife googled his username and found an entry on an adult sex site So she made a dummy account to get any kind of ammo she could on him and was quite disturbed at what all she found Apparently he has joined interest groups on this site like Virginia Gang Rape Fantasies and what not He has even written stories on that site about raping women He has a criminal history of assault including on a police officer DUI driving with a suspended license amongst others He is a rather LARGE individual who could easily knock out a bull We view this man as a very legitimate threat to our daughters life and need him to just go away Any opinions on what we can do I know we HAVE to get a lawyer but we need the most cruel and viscous lawyer in Tulsa no matter what the cost Do you think a judge could possibly award this man rights to our daughter even though in years he never once showed interest in her I hate to tell you she is NOT your daughter Never has been No matter how you feel Your wife would be well served to make an appointment with an attorney to discuss her child with her ex and what her options are Note her Not our Not your HER options You need to take a giant step back Children aren't coloring books You don't get to fill them in with your favorite colors The Kite Runner Khaled Hosseini Repugnant My new favorite word Find a Family Law Attorney PM Ohiogal Senior Member Join Date Dec Location Ohio Posts Quote What is the name of your state only U S law Oklahoma Here's the story I met my wife almost years ago when her daughter was just year old I am all she ever knew as a dad Her biological father has never seen her a day of her life and has never tried to He and my wife split prior to her knowing she was carrying Now years later we are recently married and suddenly she gets an email from that guy saying he found out she is married and congratulations and whatnot Apparently he is still googling her name The other day we get served papers that this guy now all of a sudden wants to get custody and start paying child support change her last name and everything else he can do He has a right to establish paternity and sue for custody visitation and child support Quote I assure you this is not in the best interest of my little girl as she is perfectly happy and stable as she is Unless you adopted she is NOT your little girl Quote Now my wife is a good woman and would never keep a father from seeing her child but this guy is dangerous to her in our opinion Your opinion does not matter YOur wife can tell it to the court and the COURT will make a decision Quote A couple of years ago my wife googled his username and found an entry on an adult sex site So she made a dummy account to get any kind of ammo she could on him and was quite disturbed at what all she found Apparently he has joined interest groups on this site like Virginia Gang Rape Fantasies and what not He has even written stories on that site about raping women He has a criminal history of assault including on a police officer DUI driving with a suspended license amongst others He is a rather LARGE individual who could easily knock out a bull So she was perusing the same website She is just as guilty as she says he is then He has a criminal history As of when Before or after he slept with your now wife What was his criminal history when the child was conceived Quote We view this man as a very legitimate threat to our daughters life and need him to just go away Any opinions on what we can do This is NOT your daughter This is most likely HIS daughter and hopefully she has not been lied to about who her biological father is Hopefully she has been told in child appropriate ways that YOU are not her father Quote I know we HAVE to get a lawyer but we need the most cruel and viscous lawyer in Tulsa no matter what the cost Do you think a judge could possibly award this man rights to our daughter even though in years he never once showed interest in her Yes a judge can give him rights to HIS daughter She is NOT yours If you wanted her to be yours you should have adopted her long before now You didn't He has a right to establish paternity Apparently this child has NO legal father Correct Parents should remember things Love your kids more than you hate your ex or soon to be ex when you have children the relationship with the other parent is until death your children determine what type of nursing home you end up in Nothing stated by me should be taken as giving you legal advice or forming an attorney client relationship Licensed to practice law in Ohio and a Guardian Ad Litem for children Also CFT Highest Rank approved and verified by the moderators Find a Family Law Attorney PM PMSanchez Junior Member Join Date Jul Posts Quote Originally Posted by Ohiogal He has a right to establish paternity and sue for custody visitation and child support Unless you adopted she is NOT your little girl Your opinion does not matter YOur wife can tell it to the court and the COURT will make a decision So she was perusing the same website She is just as guilty as she says he is then He has a criminal history As of when Before or after he slept with your now wife What was his criminal history when the child was conceived This is NOT your daughter This is most likely HIS daughter and hopefully she has not been lied to about who her biological father is Hopefully she has been told in child appropriate ways that YOU are not her father Yes a judge can give him rights to HIS daughter She is NOT yours If you wanted her to be yours you should have adopted her long before now You didn't He has a right to establish paternity Apparently this child has NO legal father Correct Regardless of what you say to me she is my little girl Just because I did not partake in conception means all the support and love I have given her is nullified I am planning on adopting her but since no one is listed as the father on her birth certificate we couldn't pursue it My opinion does matter because we are married two joined as one and our opinions are the same We are of course taking this to court which is why we are trying to find the right lawyer for us here She was not pursuing the website for any sexual desires he was She never even heard of the site till she clicked the link off google from searching his known user name he's always used on myspace and whatnot His criminal history is pre and post the birth of the child We are planning on letting her know that I am not her biological father when she is old enough to comprehend such a thing and I really don't think is the appropriate age I don't want to hear about oh she isn't yours take a step back blah blah blah because I have been her father in every way one can be other than insemination All I want to know is if anyone has any helpful input or lawyer suggestions in my area Thank you Find a Family Law Attorney PM CourtClerk Senior Member Join Date Apr Location Sitting at the computer probably rolling my eyes at your post Posts Quote Originally Posted by PMSanchez Just because I did not partake in conception means all the support and love I have given her is nullified No it simply means that you are not her father Someone else sees it too Quote Originally Posted by sandyclaus CourtClerk is right Quote Originally Posted by cyjeff You can't claim squatter's rights on someone else's kid Find a Family Law Attorney PM CourtClerk Senior Member Join Date Apr Location Sitting at the computer probably rolling my eyes at your post Posts Quote Originally Posted by PMSanchez We are planning on letting her know that I am not her biological father when she is old enough to comprehend such a thing and I really don't think is the appropriate age Really Does she think the mailman is her father How about the ice cream man What about every male she comes across Why is she of an appropriate age to know every other Tom Dick and Harry is not her father but not of an appropriate age to know YOU are not her father You can't have it both ways either she's old enough to know the difference or she's not Someone else sees it too Quote Originally Posted by sandyclaus CourtClerk is right Quote Originally Posted by cyjeff You can't claim squatter's rights on someone else's kid Find a Family Law Attorney PM cyjeff Senior Member Join Date Sep Posts Quote Originally Posted by PMSanchez Regardless of what you say to me she is my little girl Just because I did not partake in conception means all the support and love I have given her is nullified I am planning on adopting her but since no one is listed as the father on her birth certificate we couldn't pursue it Bull I say this as a step father You can't claim squatter's rights on someone else's kid If you wanted to adopt you should have gotten married sooner and adopted You didn't and here you are Quote My opinion does matter because we are married two joined as one and our opinions are the same Your opinion as to how this child is raised is worth exactly the same as mine because we are both legal strangers to the child Quote We are of course taking this to court which is why we are trying to find the right lawyer for us here Good luck Quote She was not pursuing the website for any sexual desires he was She never even heard of the site till she clicked the link off google from searching his known user name he's always used on myspace and whatnot His criminal history is pre and post the birth of the child So your wife thought he was good enough genetic material when she slept with him to conceive Now he gets to be a part of his child's life Even if you really don't want him to be Quote We are planning on letting her know that I am not her biological father when she is old enough to comprehend such a thing and I really don't think is the appropriate age Yeah you don't get to make that decision either Now a court will tell her Won't that be nice Quote I don't want to hear about oh she isn't yours take a step back blah blah blah because I have been her father in every way one can be other than insemination All I want to know is if anyone has any helpful input or lawyer suggestions in my area Thank you We ARE giving you helpful advice because if you a legal stranger starts spouting in court about how you should be given this man's child because you lied to her and told her you were her father you will get dressed down in court by a judge Further you will encourage the court to help the father who is NOT you to have MORE time with the child to help the transition after an appropriate introductory phase Your paranoia about letting your wife's former lover into your life is starting to show around the edges and it will NOT help the situation In fact you should be prepared for the fact that you may not even be allowed in court and that the girl stops calling you daddy immediately She only has one father And that isn't you We have enough youth We need a fountain of smart Find a Family Law Attorney PM cyjeff Senior Member Join Date Sep Posts By the way the time to tell a child that she is not your biological child is from the moment she understands the term daddy The longer you wait to tell her the more damage and trauma you do to her psychological well being You were protecting her from squat you were playing house with someone else's kid And the court will see it just that way We have enough youth We need a fountain of smart Find a Family Law Attorney PM CourtClerk Senior Member Join Date Apr Location Sitting at the computer probably rolling my eyes at your post Posts Quote Originally Posted by cyjeff You can't claim squatter's rights on someone else's kid Absolutely completely quotable and an addition to my siggy if you don't mind Someone else sees it too Quote Originally Posted by sandyclaus CourtClerk is right Quote Originally Posted by cyjeff You can't claim squatter's rights on someone else's kid Find a Family Law Attorney PM Ohiogal Senior Member Join Date Dec Location Ohio Posts Quote Regardless of what you say to me she is my little girl Just because I did not partake in conception means all the support and love I have given her is nullified It means you are a LEGAL stranger Quote I am planning on adopting her but since no one is listed as the father on her birth certificate we couldn't pursue it Bull That is completely false Without a father on the birth certificate an adoption COULD have been pursued For other reasons it may not have been able to be pursued however it was not for this reason You are showing ignorance Quote My opinion does matter because we are married two joined as one and our opinions are the same We are of course taking this to court which is why we are trying to find the right lawyer for us here There is NO us YOU are NOT a party to the lawsuit filed by the putative father YOU are a legal stranger Quote She was not pursuing the website for any sexual desires he was She never even heard of the site till she clicked the link off google from searching his known user name he's always used on myspace and whatnot really Because she was on the website same as he was You don't know for what purpose he was perusing the website YOu don't even know for a fact that he perused the website You do admit your saintly wife was on said site however Quote His criminal history is pre and post the birth of the child So why did your saintly wife believe this criminal was proper bedding material to make a father The criminal history is PRE the birth of his child so apparently mom was or could have been on notice Quote We are planning on letting her know that I am not her biological father when she is old enough to comprehend such a thing and I really don't think is the appropriate age Oh well You would be wrong So you have been lying to this child As has been said you do NOT have squatter's rights to someone else's child Quote I don't want to hear about oh she isn't yours take a step back blah blah blah because I have been her father in every way one can be other than insemination No you haven't YOU have NOT been her LEGAL father Quote All I want to know is if anyone has any helpful input or lawyer suggestions in my area Thank you You have no standing You have no case Parents should remember things Love your kids more than you hate your ex or soon to be ex when you have children the relationship with the other parent is until death your children determine what type of nursing home you end up in Nothing stated by me should be taken as giving you legal advice or forming an attorney client relationship Licensed to practice law in Ohio and a Guardian Ad Litem for children Also CFT Highest Rank approved and verified by the moderators Find a Family Law Attorney PM futuredust Senior Member Join Date Sep Location ~ ~ Posts You cannot fault this child's father for not being in her life if he never knew Odds are he came across your marriage and the kid and did the math Figuring the child was likely his so he is trying to do the right thing by HIS child By your post she found out she was pregnant AFTER they split what are the chances she never told him She started looking him up a couple years ago based on a username The internet is pretty large and there are many people who have the same username And even if it were him so what I cannot even begin to speak of some of the things that others read about or peruse online I myself am a content provider yes I write kinky horror fantasy stories geared to the adult genre for a living Doesn't make me a pervert or mean that I actually am excited by or want to even participate in said stories There are a great many actors actresses who portray demented killers or rapists Stephen King Dean Koontz and the list could go on and on Are wealthy writers who have fantastic imaginations which keep millions of people entertained The Saw movie series co written by Leigh Whannell are so violent I will not watch them does that mean any of them are not fit to be a parent Just because YOU don't approve of his reading material doesn't give you a say so Period If you are looking for an attorney I would suggest a phone book Find a Family Law Attorney PM cyjeff Senior Member Join Date Sep Posts Quote Originally Posted by CourtClerk Absolutely completely quotable and an addition to my siggy if you don't mind Not at all We have enough youth We need a fountain of smart Find a Family Law Attorney AM Isis Senior Member Join Date Nov Posts Quote Originally Posted by cyjeff Not at all nutts CC beat me to it that one had me laughing so hard my throat hurts In honor of Stealth ~ She has the art of telling someone to go to haedes and convincing them it will be a fun trip 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